Lauren Gomez: A Story of Faith and Healing

 Lauren Gomez, a beacon of faith and intellect, gracefully combines the roles of an executive, a wife and mother, and a passionate scholar. Originally hailing from Columbia, Lauren now resides in the historic and vibrant city of London with her husband and young son. Her life’s journey is a tapestry of diverse experiences, woven from her extensive travels across the globe and her current academic pursuits at
Oxford University.

A woman of profound faith, Lauren embodies the power of belief and resilience. Her personal narrative is a testament to the miraculous healing power of God, a story that continues to inspire and uplift those
around her. As a lifelong learner, she constantly seeks new knowledge and perspectives, enriching both her professional and personal life.

In her podcast, Lauren shares her unique insights, drawing from her rich cultural background, her academic endeavors, and her deep spiritual convictions. Her conversations are a blend of thoughtful reflections ofn life and faith. Lauren’s voice is a source of inspiration and wisdom, resonating with listeners who seek a deeper understanding of the world and their place in it.

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Full Transcript

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Courageous Podcast. Glad you could join us. Today we have a special treat in store for you featuring my Oxford colleague, Lauren Gomez. But before diving into our conversation, let me share a few intriguing facts about Lauren. Originally from Columbia, she brings with her the charm of the Colombian accent. I’m sure you will agree it is one of the most captivating in the world. Additionally, Lauren is an avid collector. A passion many of you might share. For instance, my wife and I enjoy gathering coffee mugs from a globally famous coffee chain. Interestingly, Lauren also has a unique collection and impressive array of coffee mugs. We had a fascinating pre-podcast chat about it while we were catching up. And I’ve decided to include that for your enjoyment. I thought it was kind of a fun little chat. But there’s a lot more to Lauren than her collection. And this episode for sure is packed with a lot of inspiration. And it’s certainly one you’ll want to share with friends and family. A powerful story. Now let’s dive in and hear from Lauren telling us about those coffee mugs.

Does he know how many cups do I have?
How many do you have?
180.
Are you kidding?
No, no, no.
180.
180.
But you don’t have them from the United States.
Yes, some of them. And I discovered because I made my husband drive through a state to find a Starbucks. I found out that it exists some states without them out. Wow. Just to get up. And to find everything and when we landed, no, we don’t have it. They don’t have it. Really? In that moment four years ago, I discovered. So they have in Rhode Island and they don’t have the I already made my husband to drive across the coast to find a Starbucks. Okay, do you need me to send you an Iowa Starbucks? I do. I really appreciate that. Okay, I’ll do. 180 is fantastic. We’ve got not 180. We’ve got 20 or 30. So we’re just babies. We’re just getting started. But baby, I am a pro. What’s the, what’s the longer? What’s the, the, the rarest? Like Antarctic or something like that? And now it’s nice because the manager, the managing director that I met in Hong Kong. She said, like, I need to give you something special. And I said, like, I would, and, and he rolled me to Hong Kong one from Wuhan. The place in China where the COVID started. You have a Starbucks back from Wuhan. Okay. So you got the Wuhan mug. Wow. I have Hong Kong. Macau is interested in China. And China, special edition is already golden and red because they are the colors. Yes. That’s a special one. Do you know how many Starbucks mugs there are out there? No, but I will try to check. If you have a hundred and eight, do you have, it’s include like duplicates and stuff? I only have two duplicates. One is a party. The new edition because I have two editions of parties. The previous one and the new one. And I think that my date. I only have two duplicates. So we can exchange if you want your fantastic. Okay. So now we found out about the Starbucks mug. So I want to know a little bit more about you. And I want to thank you. I’m late thanking you being on the courageous podcast. I so enjoyed our time together in Oxford. And I remember talking to you in the lunch hall. And you shared just, you shared with several of the other classmates, but you shared with me a little bit of your story in it. Absolutely blew me away. So I’m, I don’t know if that’s going to be the topic of the most courageous thing you’ve ever done, but I can’t wait to get to it. But before we do that, Lauren, would you tell the listeners a little bit more about you, your family, where you You’re from, where you’re at right now, what you do, that.
Absolutely. That is most important. I’m from Barranquilla, Colombia. No, it’s not to pronounce that word in Spanish, but I’m from Barranquilla, an amazing city in the north of Colombia. Just in front of the Atlantic Ocean.
So yes, I’m from—
What’s the name of the city one more time?
Barranquilla.
That is amazing.
Barranquilla. You know, there’s no—there are no towns in Iowa that you have to roll your R’s. I’m from Sheraton and I maybe Sheraton—okay, it doesn’t work.
So Barranquilla is—you pronounce correctly, Barranquilla. You can learn Spanish. Well, don’t worry.
Okay, please continue.
Yes, but Barranquilla, Colombia. I’m—my family is only my single mom and myself. She is a doctor. She’s already retired, but this is an important context for the rest of my story and to understand my story. Because we have been always just the two of us. Of course, I met my dad, but my family is only my mom and myself.
I grew up in Barranquilla. I met my husband there. I’ve been married for more than 13 years. And now I have a son. He’s 11, almost 12 years old. And thanks God we are now—I don’t want to spoil the rest of the story—but now we are living in London. So, since two years ago and we are finally creating our new home. And our new home feeling here.
Beautiful. And you said two years you’ve been living in London?
Two years, only two years. And this is relatively new.
And what do you do for a career?
For career—I am a business administrator, but I’ve been working in HR for the last 17 years. My degree is in business, but I’ve been working always in HR. So right now I am the Global Vice President in Pearson of Human Resources for a business unit that is English Language Learning. I know it’s not a joke, it’s not a marketing campaign, but yes, it’s English Language Learning. Even I just learned English four years ago.
But—because I know that it sounds funny, but it’s true.
Now wait a minute. I didn’t know this about you, Lauren. So you only learned English four years ago?
Yes.
You speak it very well. I’m—I don’t know any other language. Was it difficult to learn English?
Yes, even more at this age—it’s not the same. It’s not the same. But to be honest, first it was always my dream. My dream was always to learn English. And I was always telling my mom, please study English, study English. But in Colombia, unfortunately it’s still a privilege. And I never had the opportunity to afford for those classes.
So that is why I could—it was my dream. And if I had a decision, I could never learn English. And then when thanks for all the situation and skills and thanks to that, I was in this, in this moment in my career, even I didn’t need English in that moment.
You said, I already have the position that I want. I don’t need to learn, but I said, it’s never late. I want to learn.
And when I was learning by myself, thanks to Netflix and English and subtitles in English, subscription in Harvard, a review, download the podcasts. And then I was asked—that is why I love podcasts in English. Even I didn’t understand. I just kept listening. BBC to learn the British accent and just reading English books in English. That is the way that I start to learn.
And after one year and a half or two years that I was like really happy and advanced level in English is when I used to work in Experian—that is a British company—they offer me to transfer to London. And I was like, are you serious? Speaking English two years ago.
And that is the moment when I received that offer for moving from Colombia to London. Two years ago.
What does your husband—does he speak English?
Little bit because he used to live in Dallas. But now he’s practicing more. But when we moved, my son didn’t speak English. Not even one word.
So he moved here and he joined the school without speaking English.
And how is he doing with his English now?
Now he’s amazing. He’s like a sponge and he said, “Mom, don’t worry, I raised the English and it’s perfect. It’s my dream come true.
Wow. Wow.
I want to ask you—what’s the most difficult language to pick up? Do you speak other languages or is it just English and Spanish?
I used to study, twenty years ago, French, but I think that for me, that moment was easier than English to be honest. But I stopped it. I couldn’t continue. And I fully understand Portuguese because I used to work with Brazil. I honestly understand perfectly Portuguese, but I don’t speak Portuguese.
Wow. Well, maybe I’ll interview myself one time on this podcast and say tongue-in-cheek: the most courageous thing I ever did was drop my Italian class when I was in college 30 years ago. I just couldn’t—I, for some reason, the foreign languages are just hard for me to pick up. So I have such admiration for people that can do that.
Lauren, so now you’re even more impressive to me. Wow.
It’s life changing, to be honest. Change your perspective. And thanks to God. First, I am offering to my son a better future than the life that I had—that it was really, really hard. I am changing his life, his future. And thanks to that—that is why I was, I don’t know, last week working in Hong Kong, because it’s our reality. You need English. So it opened a different perspective, mindset of opportunities and experience that if I didn’t take the risk at this age to learn by myself, I wouldn’t be here.
You know? So I was more motivated about what can I achieve than any other situation. I have to do it.
Wow. That’s amazing.
Okay. We’ve covered where you’re from, where you’re living now, your family, your work. To calibrate before we get into the main question—which is, what is the most courageous thing you’ve ever done—I want to hear a little bit about how you define courage.
Maybe say first—is there somebody that you look up to? Is there somebody either in your family or a historical figure that you view as particularly courageous that inspires you with courage?
Yes. My mom. Definitely. Absolutely for me. I mean, she has been my only reference and the most important reference because definitely she has been—oh my God—facing a lot of huge challenges that now, as a mother, and now I understand that it was not so easy.
And it was definitely because of love. And I think that that is the most important—is the courage is coming from love. You can do whatever.
And she only taught not only love about for me. I mean, it’s also love for other people. She used to be a doctor in a really, really poor hospital in Colombia. And I see that even if she had to pay for the medicine from her own wallet, she did it.
So it’s not only the love that you feel for your own son or daughter—that is more natural—it’s how you also love other people that they are not even relatives.
And I think that that is more challenging than loving your family.
Wow. So you view courage as being rooted in love?
That is my—personally—that is the foundation for me.
That’s wonderful.
Makes me stronger, at least.
Do you think everybody has courage?
Not everybody has the potential to do it. Not everybody faces it.
The potential for acting courageously is in them, right?
Yes. Any human being—absolutely everybody. If you use it or you don’t use it—it’s your accountability. You have the potential. Are you really using that on a daily basis? Not everybody.
I totally agree. What is the thing that you think would hold people short of doing a courageous thing, stepping out in bravery?
Afraid. Afraid of the result. Sometimes afraid of—what can I be losing could be more powerful than what I can gain or receive.
So—what other people think, what is the result, what happens if?
What happens? What happens? Oh my God. What happens? What happens?
That can stop you.
“What if” can stop you.
Yes.s and people to meet in my life. And when I got the chance to meet with you and just hear a little bit about your story, I mean, it was—it was goosebumps. And it was one of the most enriching conversations that I’ve ever had.

So I’m not going to beat around the bush anymore. I’m just going to come out and ask you:
Lauren, would you please tell us what’s the most courageous thing you’ve ever done?

Oh my God. There are a full list. But for me, it’s when I was 14 years old.
I’m going to stop walking without any reason. And I go—that was my first surgery in my spine. That I just stopped walking one week.
And you are only 14 years old. And yes, I didn’t walk. And I was in a wheelchair for eight months when you are 14 years old. And I said like, “Okay, nothing happens. I will continue.”
When I go—and I come back to school. And I said, “Mom, call to school because I need to come back.”
“No, you are in bed.”
I said, “No. So go pick up the books and bring them.”
It’s like, in that moment, it was like, go ahead. I am alive.
“You are not walking.”
“No, it doesn’t matter. I’m working.”

So as soon as I can, call the constitutional bar when I left my wheelchair after eight months and I stopped walking.
And I was celebrating because finally I’m walking again. And I said, okay, now I am a teenager. You know, almost 15 years old.
You are only thinking about what life is bringing to me. You know, you have different plans in your life.

And in that moment is when I fell sick one day—without even having fever.
Honestly, I didn’t even have a cold. Not even flu. I just woke up one morning without being able to breathe.
And I just start to throw things to the wall to make my mom wake up.
He could help me to go to the hospital.
And in that moment is when they have a really, really complicated—
I was sick in my lungs.

And they start, during one month, to try to discover the origin of that.
And in that moment is when I received the diagnosis of lupus.
Just a month—just a few days after I left the wheelchair.

So you were at the age of 14…
Yes.
In a wheelchair—you stopped walking.
Yes.
And you were in the wheelchair for eight months.
Yes.
And then you started walking again.
Yes.
And then you had this health incident.
Yes.
And you went in and you were diagnosed with lupus.
Yes.

And I was in the bed. And my mom was absolutely destroyed because she’s a doctor.
So you can imagine that—you don’t need to explain to a doctor what was happening.
Even more because when it was detected, it was very, very aggressive.
And I remember that I was in bed. And my mom was crying and rebelling.

And I said, “Mom, don’t worry because I already have two options. Or I am happy or I am not happy. I will be happy despite of the lupus. So don’t worry.”
And in that moment, I was in bed. And sometimes you thought like, “But you are not on the screen.”
And then you said, “Don’t worry. Go ahead, let’s explain. Okay, that is lupus. Okay. I am alive.”
I decided in that moment, in my bed, that I will be happy the rest of my life in spite of.
Not waiting for not having lupus. And that is the difference.

Because people say, “I will be happy when I learn it. I’ll be happy when I get a job. I’ll be happy when I will…”
And what happens if that day never comes?

Lauren, I apologize to interrupt you, but—where did that come from?
So you’re making a decision that you’re going to be happy regardless of what happens. Were you—have you always had that kind of fortitude?

Yes. In that moment, honestly, in that moment, I feel that it was…
I didn’t fully understand where that was coming from the first day.
When I received the diagnosis. Then when I started to develop that conversation with God, being in bed.
And I started to meet Him. I said, “Ah. This is where my energy is coming from.”

Did you see at the beginning—because for me, it was different at that moment.
I was not going actively to church. I was not reading the Bible.
I was not—so sometimes, a lot of time, people use…Actually, most people first know the theory.
And then when they are facing a problem, they put in practice the theory—what you know that is coming from the gospel.
In my case, it was the opposite. I first—I met Him in reality.
And then when I was reading the theory, I said, “Ah… you already…?”
So that is why then I—“That is written in the gospel, okay?”
You see, for me it was vice versa.

Because you felt that comforting from God.
And then you come to your faith—or you read about it in the gospel later that God will comfort you.
And you’re like, “That’s the thing that’s happening to me.”
Uh-huh. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
And I said, because when I go to reading—“Ah, okay, He said that person…” and then He said—

I said, “Wait a second.”
When I counted, Jeff—in that moment, in that year—I was 12 years with lupus.
Okay, hold on a second, Lauren, because I’ve got to get caught up here with you.
So you’re coming back home and you’re receiving a diagnosis of six months?
Yes.
That’s all the doctors are giving you—is six months?
Yes.
Your faith is strong. You’re talking to the Lord all the time. Your body is failing you.
And you go to a church service?
Yes.
And the person that’s giving the sermon—later on becomes your husband?
He’s now my husband.
He’s now your husband.

And the sermon that the person gives is the story in the gospel about the woman who’s bleeding constantly for 12 years.
And she says, “If I can only touch Jesus’ garment, I’ll be healed.”
She touches—and Jesus says, “Who touched me?”
You recount that story.

So now you’re associating the blood disease that the woman had with the blood disease—which is lupus—which you have?
Yes.
And you’re counting 12 years from the time that you were first diagnosed when you heard that story?
So now you’re hearing that story in real time—when you’ve been having lupus for 12 years?
Yes.

And I said, “Wait a second—because that’s me.”
And I said, “He’s alive. I’ve been talking to Him. I’ve been doing the worst deal.”
And I talked to Him.
And I said, “Wait a second. I didn’t know that You already healed one lady like me—2,000 years ago. I didn’t know that. So I’ve been doing that really bad deal with You. Because I’ve been asking You only for one more day—because You’re not going to be healed. Because I’ve been asking You only for one more day in my life. And I didn’t ask You for a life.”

And that day I said, “This is a bad deal with You.”
And now that I discovered that You can do that—I changed my prayer.
Because I used to pray for only one day—to wake up the next day.
And that is the first day that I changed my prayer.

And in that moment, I said—you know, they invited me to another charismatic ceremony.
And when they were praying, my mom was next to me.
And in that moment I was—literally, Jeff—in faith, I was literally laid down on the floor.
And I said, “If she was saved only because she was touching the border of the garment—I don’t want to touch it—I will grab the whole garment. But You, You can do it. That’s it—with me.”

And in that moment, I felt—in one second—like absolutely hot, like my hands on fire.
You’re laying on the floor?
Yes, I was laying on the floor. I extended.
Jesus is going to…
Weeping out?
Yes.

I felt in one second that my hands were really, really on fire.
And I felt a presence in front of me—like someone in front of me.
That day my mom said that no one was there because she was next to me.

And I said to my mom—and I felt Him.
And I said, “Mom, He was here. And now He’s healed me. And I am—I don’t have lupus.”

And after that, I felt that moment.
And I said in faith, “I know that He was here. And I was that lady in the gospel.”
And I called my doctor. I said, “Please, I feel—
The next day, I feel that I’m different. I need to do all the exams again.”

Fifteen days after that, I came again to the appointment—with all the results, with everything.
My medical history is something like this—with everything…And he only said, I don’t believe in God.

Your doctor said.

My doctor said, I don’t believe in God.

And he only know that that you had loopholes.

And then loopholes has not pure.

And I know that today you don’t have loopholes.

And I said to him, you don’t believe in God, but I have.

I know the reason.

God save me.

I know that I don’t have loopholes.

And in that moment, the doctor said, go and have a life.

And Jeff, when I was in the, he laid down.

And I told him in my mind what I said.

I said, I don’t believe in God.

I said, I don’t believe in God.

I said, I don’t believe in God.

I said, I don’t believe in God.

I said, I don’t believe in God.

I said, I don’t believe in God.

In my mind, what I said to God was, please give me a life.

So the doctor in that moment told me the same words said those words.

When you’re laying on the floor, Lauren, and you’re reaching out for the cloak of Jesus,

you felt that presence.

I didn’t know that part of your story before that your mother was right there with you.

So you’re declaring in that moment, mother, he’s here.

And she says, no, there’s nobody here, but you said he’s here.

And then you said, I know that he just cleared, cured my lupus.

Am I getting that right?

Yes.

And then it’s 15 days later that you go to the doctor who doesn’t believe in Jesus.

And you say, you got to check me out.

And he says, lupus doesn’t have a cure.

You had lupus.

This is your records.

Clearly you had lupus.

And you don’t have it anymore.

What is your, what does your mother do?

Cry and cry and cry.

And in that day, my, even more because she’s a doctor, she said, this moment is changing my whole life.

Because you think because she is a doctor.

Don’t forget. I’m telling you this is an important context when I started my mom is a doctor.

So this is eventually in my everything that I’ve been studying and practicing my whole life.

And she believe it.

And in that moment, Jeff, I was usually daily.

I was taking 45 pills every day.

45 and in that moment, pills for all the, all the problems that I had.

And in that day, he said, like, don’t take anymore.

Because you don’t have lupus.

And I said, can you believe it?

That I said, Oh, and now what I’m going to do with our lupus.

And then I said, it was like, so when you said, please embrace the cross.

Literally, you can do it.

This is, I am, that is what I’m telling you.

You know, it’s going to set this difficult.

Take your cross with you.

I take it.

It’s not easy.

No, no, no.

It’s eventually.

And now when you don’t have the cross and you are hugging, embracing is part of your life.

So it’s impossible.

And then, okay, what I’m going to do with our lupus, even more because of the lupus.

I couldn’t have kids.

I couldn’t have children.

Uh-huh.

And when, and then when I get married, I was, I get pregnant 15 days after my wedding.

And now I have my son almost 12 years old.

Lauren, your whole life is a miracle.

You got to jump, you got, you got to jump back because the man that gave you the sermon,

who was obedient with the gospel and just shared that with you.

I assume a whole room full of other people.

You heard it.

You said that became your husband.

How did that happen?

Yes.

Jeff, can you believe it?

That someday someone invited us as a short and this same testimony, but being told by him,

you would love to hear that because what was happening in his life in parallel.

And in parallel, he was praying to God for a woman, not for being the girlfriend, for being the wife.

But he was leading, but, but, but needs to be in the church.

And then when he met me, I was sick.

And we became a boyfriend.

He asked me for being his girlfriend, knowing that I was sick.

We don’t need those six months.

I’m he prayed to God.

God, okay, I was waiting for a wife, but I mean, not someone that you’re going to die in six months.

And he said, if this is your will, I will take it.

So we are, my friends, since I was sick.

When I was killed, I was, we were array.

Lauren.

You need to take care of your prayers because you didn’t, you were thinking that I will last for six months.

And now we have been together for years.

I got me for the rest of your life, buddy.

Fantastic.

Take care of your prayer.

Take care of your wish.

Yes.

Lauren.

So years have you been cured of lupus, which doesn’t happen.

13 years.

Yes, 13 years because my son is almost 12 and they, you can count.

Yes, like 13 years.

And then forgive me.

I interrupted you, but you were saying your concern was, what am I going to do without lupus now?

Because that was one of the things that kept me the closest with God because you had that conversation with him every day and you were close and whatever.

And so now your faith has got to be informing everything that you do.

Yes.

Yes.

And then I got on my life to be honest, my life, when I wanted to answer your question, my life continued to say, because I said, this was then I realized that the lupus was not stopping me.

I created my life embracing the lupus.

So you can play all this woman gets crazy in the next day to the, to the bar.

No, no, no, no, I didn’t have that was not a stop me.

And sometimes as a human beings will think that the stepping of things are they reach some for stopping us.

Yeah.

But when you remove the problem, if you really embrace the problem, you can keep being happy.

That is what I’m telling you, I was happy even with lupus.

I was not saying I will be happy.

I will be happy the day when I will know, I mean, no, no, no, no, no, you need to do it now.

What happened if that day never comes?

Right. Right.

You know, we had not to make this about me.

We’ve had home church for a long time.

And I remember early on, we had one of the members of our home church meeting intermittently,

but we’ve had one of our members say to me at the end of a service, Jeff, when are we going to do this stuff?

And I said, what do you mean the stuff? And he said, well, the stuff that’s in the Bible.

He’ll say it, raise the dead, do all that kind of, you know, he’s talking about the stuff written in scriptures.

And I said, oh, okay.

So that started us on a pattern of stopping at the end of services and listening to God,

and pressing into that and just asking if God’s got something for us.

And GK Chesterton, the theologian, long time ago said about the Bible.

He said, this book is being played out before our very eyes and most people don’t even see it.

And I would imagine you would give a yes and an amen to that.

Look, this is a, this is a living and breathing gospel, and it’s right there for us.

And Jesus promises are true.

I mean, that’s what you’re inspiring me with right now.

Isn’t that right?

Yes. This is one of us. We are at Tangible God.

Tangible.

Tangible gospel.

No more. What is a stop in us?

What’s stopping us? That’s right.

Tell me after the after knowing my story, tell me what what is a stop in us.

Oh, my.

You’re inspiring me. I mean, why why you wouldn’t lay out on the floor and just say, okay, Lord, you know,

I’ve been asking you just for one, I love the way you put that. I’ve been asking just for one day.

I want to life. And that’s the promise that you give me so please.

And leave it to him to answer that prayer.

But your job is just to ask and you said that so beautifully. Wow.

And not setting times and saying why they why God is taking so long.

I didn’t share with him. I think and this is the timeline.

Kill me. No, no, no, no, no, not just because people is like, I’ve been praying for these two years.

And why a timeline?

What is the timeline? What is the project manager? What is the the charge with God?

What is the criteria? What is the KPI? No, no, no, no, no.

You are asking is because he’s mercy because them a lot of people ask me, okay?

But why did he save you? I mean, why is the opposite?

Not why the DC is now why you don’t have lip and it’s because he’s got asked him why?

Because he’s got. Yeah.

Because he’s mercy and I said, maybe I said, maybe he, I don’t have lupus because my son had to come to this world.

So maybe the miracle was not for me was not for my son.

Oh, my lord.

I don’t know what is going to happen in my son’s future.

But I don’t even need to be alive to see that why we are all the time expected to see the miracle of God. He’s God.

He will see the miracle is for me. No, no, no, maybe because I don’t know in his mercy is only for being right now in this podcast telling you the story and someone that will be listening.

The story will believe more in God.

So at the end.

This miracle is for me. All these for also say that person.

Wow. He’s equipped you with the testimony that could be the life changing thing for somebody who hasn’t asked God yet and is going to do that now.

Yes. And if I didn’t learn English four years ago, I couldn’t be sharing the testimony in English with you.

Right.

Tell me why do we need to have to rethink everything.

Leave it to God. I mean, don’t put all the effort in thinking and finding the way, etc.

Because I don’t even need to see what is the impact that it miracle is for someone else is I don’t deserve this.

I got a need to say, I need you see, he receives the miracle. No, no, no, no, I said, please.

This is for me. This is a miracle for you because you will be doing something with that. Yeah, but it’s not for me.

Fantastic.

So.

Do you have more to add to that story?

No, I mean, to be honest, he’s like, he’s amazing. He’s funny. He’s strong. He loves to love.

He loves when you call him and when you talk to him, he’s always there. He’s absolutely amazing. More than you can imagine.

He’s offered with us. He’s with us.

He’s absolutely amazing. My favorite person.

It’s amazing, Lauren. Thank you so much. I don’t want to put you on the spot here, but I’m just, I have, it’s on my heart that somebody’s probably going to be listening to this.

And their faith is going to be tickling them from the inside. And they’re going to be thinking, maybe, maybe, maybe God’s got something for me too.

And the courageous thing for them is going to be to get hit their knees for the first time in prey.

Lauren, could I ask you just to say a little prayer for people that might be listening to this podcast, just that their faith would grow strong and that they’d press into him.

Hi, Jeff.

I feel bad doing in English because it will be terrible, but I know. Do it in Spanish if you want to.

Oh, my God. I will try to do it in both to be honest. So God.

You know, that right now in the same way that I lay down in that day for me, I am doing that exactly the same thing right now in a spiritual way for anybody that will be listening to this.

Take all those years with my illness, with my suffering, with my sacrifice and do something with that for someone that will be listening to this.

Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it because that makes sense. And I offer gladly and happy and with joy with joy, even more sacrifice.

I’m getting used to it. But if you promise me to do something with that offer for increase the faith, the health, the peace and love for someone that will be listening to this podcast.

And even more for Jeff, that is the one that you are using to bring this story to someone else. This is my project.

Amen. Amen. Lauren made a good Lord bless you. Wow.

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